Barry King: Black Ops - Part 2 -- return to Part 1
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Kerry Cassidy (KC): Really?
Barry King (BK): Yeah.
KC: Useful how?
BK: You had stargate technology in Iraq and Iran.
BK: So... Okay. We really ruined Iraq.
BK: But... If we’re going to do the same in Iran,
we won't get our hands on their technology.
KC: Whose side are they on? We’ve heard talk that China
was going into Iran and sort of having its way there, as
well as Russia.
BK: What you see is, you had little voices down
corridors, saying, “This is what we’re going to leak out and
this is what we want the public to think.”
BK: “And this is what we wanted the media to say.”
BK: So the little voices say, “I wonder what would happen
if we set the Chinese and the Russians together?” (BK
demonstrates what he means on a map on the side table.)
BK: “The idea of the Chinese and the Russians together.
What would the public think about that?” So, they’ve
got their own Think Tank.
BK: “How would the public react to that? How would the
media react to that if we push that information out?”
KC: Okay. But, so, on the one hand, there's the, in
essence, the disinfo. On the other hand, there is
actually the real agenda.
KC: And so, what is the agenda?
BK: Well, that all depends on whether they’re a White Hat
or Black Hat. Which do you want?
KC: Well, true. So, can’t you tell me what the White Hats
want and what the Black Hats want? And that would differ
depending on the country, wouldn’t it?
BK: It would depend on the country, yeah.
KC: Okay, so here in Britain, let’s say, what would
a White Hat be planning?
BK: We would be aligning ourselves with the Chinese, very
BK: Oh, yes. But it’s not, of course, what is going to
happen at all.
KC: What’s going to happen?
BK: Well, as I say the Chinese are going to take
over the Number One spot. So, we want to be in with the top
KC: Okay, but that doesn’t strike me as a terribly
white hat point of view. In other words, white hats tend to
take the moral higher ground, not just …
BK: There’s going to be a [relapse]. Well, but this
is it, you see. Everyone thinks the white hats are pure
KC: Okay, and they’re not?
BK: They’re not.
KC: In other words, they are opportunists?
BK: If it suits them. If they think it’s for their
betterment, in the long run, certainly, yeah.
KC: Okay. How about the black hats in this country?
What is it that they want? Because certainly, they don’t
want China to take over, right?
BK: No, no. That, would really mean... Well, I
think anything goes with Black Hats. You'd get either
KC: Okay. What about the idea of the brown dwarf
that is coming into our solar system?
BK: Oh crickey, yeah. Would you say... that upon
hearing that, doesn’t it worry you?
KC: Not particularly.
BK: Again, that’s the idea, scaremongering. You are going
to get a lot of disinformation and you’re going to get a lot
of people worried. Then, these people are going to
either channel some information that ‘this’ is going to
happen or ‘that’ is going to happen. If one way doesn’t get
you then another way will. They are literally put here to
KC: I understand.
BK: You’re going to get very, very confused with what's
about to come out.
KC: Okay, but out of that sort of mish-mash of
things, there has to be some kind of accuracies, you know,
situations that are going down.
BK: Yes. Very accurate.
KC: Well, if I describe to you what I think the
agenda is, can you say yes or no?
BK: I’ll try.
KC: Okay. So, what we were told was that the
Rothschild side of the Illuminati, basically wants to
maintain control, that they are working closely with the
Anunnaki, and that they want to be part of their One-World
Government. So, they need to take down the economic system
of the U.S. as part of that agenda, and that’s what’s
happening right now in the U.S. in sort of a progressive
way. And then, is China going into and taking over the U.S.
– is that part of the Rothschild’s agenda, as well, or would
the Rothschild’s rather not see that?
BK: Yes, I think they would rather see the power and the
wealth taken away from America because that gives them more
power and they got the money, so yes.
KC: So, they're okay with that?
KC: I was also told that at a very high level of the
Chinese government, there is a sort of Illuminati faction
working with them very closely.
BK: Yes, I think so.
KC: Okay. The recent hit on Japan, I was also told
that was a...taking advantage of a certain hyperdimensional
doorway that was created, and then augmenting the earth
quake to make it bigger than it would have been. In other
words, say it would have been a 6.5; instead it was a 9.
And the reason they did that – now I want your feedback – is
because Japan is actually getting more 'in bed' with China,
and that is something the U.S. didn’t want to see. Is that
your take on it?
BK: That's pretty much close to it.
BK: Yes. But the trouble is, they didn’t want it to
end there in Japan. They really wanted to rub their noses in
it. So, it could have got much worse.
KC: Well, I’m told that it might happen again.
KC: Right. What about New Zealand? Why is there
such a strange thing going on with New Zealand? Are they
trying to move in there to secure their hold? I mean, what
is really going on there? Do you know?
BK: New Zealand [unclear] So, I have no
information at all.
KC: Okay. What about this idea that, even though Russia
and the U.S. aren’t the best of friends right now,
eventually, somewhere down the line, they’re going to change
sides and realize that the game with China is just not to
their advantage and they will side with the U.S. Have you
BK: Lots of whispers, but then again, you’ve got to
see it from the Russian’s point of view. They were an elite
power. They were enemies of the U.S. and U.S. allies. The
wall goes down in 1989. Well, we’ve all jumped forward and
we’re all part of NATO. We’re all doing this and we’re all
doing that. Everyone seems fine, and then what happened to
Russia economically and financially since 1989? What is the
overall picture of Russia?
KC: Well, it went downhill mightily.
KC: But at the same time, there are some mega, mega
billionaires that were made out of that situation.
BK: Yes. And the Russian mafia has grown out of all
proportions. So, really, the Russian people didn’t do
too well did they?
KC: They didn’t do too well?
KC: Okay, right. So they want to change the game
up, a bit.
BK: I think they’d like to revert back to 'old
BK: Old school. Look at how they look today.
KC: You think Putin would like to go back to old
BK: Well, I don't know about him, but certainly
you’ve got a lot there who really hated losing their power.
BK: You know. Their dogs can’t bark, and they don't
KC: What is the relationship between China and
Japan, to your knowledge? Do you have any inside information
BK: Nothing that is not already known right now, so
no special information.
KC: No special information. Okay. What about Syria?
How do they factor into the story right now? Because it
seems like there is a lot of activity over there.
BK: Well, again, as I said, you’ve got this whole
Middle East region that are going into turmoil.
BK: To avoid one area, but to get everyone else
fighting amongst themselves?
KC: I see.
BK: Syria's the next one then.
BK: And Jordan. Now, you’ve got to watch Qatar?
KC: Oh Qatar?
BK: Yes. And they've got allegiances with certain
people, but I’d just keep my eyes on that.
KC: I see, and how about the UAE? (United Arab
Emirates) I mean, my understanding is that they are
kind of on the U.S. side, but I could be wrong.
BK: Yes. I think the UAE are on the U.S. side.
KC: What about the recent revolution in Egypt? I
mean, it doesn’t look like it’s really panning out to be
what we had hoped, of course. But do you think this was
orchestrated to some degree? That's what some of my inside
knowledge is giving me.
BK: It gives the impression that it was orchestrated;
that as it unfolded, perhaps it didn’t do the job intended.
I mean, you’ve got various countries now, all demanding
democracy. But that isn’t what they’re used to, is it?
BK: So, in Egypt that took a little bit of a putsch?
BK: But, it's gotten a lot bigger than the putsch.
KC: Okay, meaning it's not worked to get rid of the
BK: The current regimes, yeah.
KC: I see.
BK: There is talk of sending a covert team in to
get rid of Gaddafi if they can’t do it diplomatically. It’s
KC: Right. Well, bombing the hell out of a country
is not really the right way to go in.
BK: That's how things have always worked.
BK: I mean, you guys recently took out Bin Laden.
KC: Right. Well, it’s very hard to kill a dead man,
yet they did manage.
KC: So, this is just a pile of disinformation.
BK: Yes, and there’s going to be a lot more to
come. See, the idea is to keep the public guessing. The
media are controlled. The media will dish out certain
stories that it’s “Keeping everyone guessing, keeping
everyone confused”, and then you don’t know what's going on.
KC: I see. Well, okay. So, I’ve been curious
whether you were involved in the Rendelsham Forest case at
BK: In a very...very loose way.
BK: Because, as I explained to Miles Johnson, while we
were filming them in Rendlesham, the NSA's part in the whole
setup and the software and hardware would have been brought
from Peasemore over to Suffolk. I gave the dates and times
when they transferred and arrived at Rendlesham. They would
have arrived at Christmas Eve at a certain time, and you go
into the forest. It really helps if you started with Larry
KC: Actually not directly, but I've read the book.
BK: But, you know, how he starts his story.
BK: I mentioned in the documents way back in the
’90s, what they did to Larry Warren, and what the whole – it
wasn’t an exercise; it wasn’t a drill – it was full-out
that the NSA, combined with the AT, played on with the
American end, the bases. They literally wanted to do a lot
of psychological damage to the NSA at the time.
KC: But what was the initial purpose? Was it just
to test them, use them as guinea pigs for those kinds of
operations in general? And take their reactions?
BK: Yes, well, now you get to the several major
players that were messed with, including Larry. Again, it
wasn’t a test, because they knew exactly what they were
doing. This was a full blown attack. It was a missile
attack. That's what they did. Knowing full well that
thirteen years later, no one would believe that it was
possible for some outside force to gain entry to very secure
facilities and to actually disarm the nuclear weaponry that
was there. The idea was to get it played right. and to give,
because they’ve very... they've got a sick attitude of
“We’re going to show you what we can do but we will do it in
such a way that you won’t believe it anyway and so, we can
get away with it when we do you in on the next hour and make
a big big step.”
KC: Oh, really.
KC: So, you mean, it was sort of a practice
BK: I’m not quite sure if I want to use that term,
but if that’s the term you are happy with, yes.
KC: Okay. I think I’m happy with that, actually.
Okay, but also what I’ve heard is that it was a Nazi UFO.
BK: Well, the technology we’ve got in the black
programs is Nazi technology. So, then that's not a problem.
KC: Okay. That makes sense. I’m going to be careful
here, because I know a witness who is out there and he's
been talking about this sort of thing. He was actually
associated with another case, and he was temporarily
stationed – I think it was at that base. And he told me an
anecdote in which they kept asking him if he would come in
for an examination, a physical examination. And he had no
desire or any reason to go to the doctor. And I guess, he
was a little more awake than he was supposed to be, and so
he basically said, “No I don’t have any reason to do that”,
but they kept wanting him to come in. This is how they
affect their memories, is by bringing him in on doctor
visits in which they must either shoot him up with something
or do something of that nature to them. And I guess that
same thing has happened to you personally, right?
KC: Okay. In terms of the shutdown of the nuclear
weapons, the missiles, and of course, that same thing
happened in Montana, and so on. Was that authentic? In other
words, were we supposed to be persuaded that they have that
ability or do they really have that ability?
BK: Yes. They can totally disarm the world’s
nuclear arms, if they wanted to.
KC: And one wonders why they just don’t.
BK: Well, again, maybe they are trying to let us
learn lessons. And, we're going down the wrong path. Maybe
some do want nuclear annihilation.
BK: But obviously, others don't. That's what’s
happening. You’ve got this war going on out there.
KC: Yes, very much so. Yes. So, you would
definitely agree with that. What about Mars? Have you had
many dealings with Mars?
BK: I've only RV'd the place.
KC: You’ve only what?
BK: Remote view.
KC: Oh, remote viewing, yes.
BK: I’d like to claim I didn’t ever and...
KC: Okay, well, among other things, I understand
people can go in and out of Menwith Hill.
BK: Yes. It's curious, because it’s along certain
areas where they're using technologies that some people call
'star-gates'. Some people call them 'jump rooms', 'portals',
whatever you like to call them. Some are natural and some
are man-made. Some were left here by ancient intelligences.
KC: I see.
BK: Yes, it is quite possible to get from point A
to point B within the same continent and obviously
elsewhere. So, yes, they’re there.
KC: Okay. So, in terms of the relationship between
the powers on this planet and who's operational on Mars,
have you ever gotten any indicators as to who's running
BK: No. As I said, my RV was for a specific
purpose, so I kept away from those things.
KC: And I assume that when you RV'd it, it
validated it enough for you to understand that we do have
bases up there.
BK: Well, it validated the information to the
people who asked me to RV it.
BK: So, that was done sufficiently. We're done with
that job, so, move onto the next one.
KC: What about the moon?
BK: Oh, yeah. We did that several times.
KC: So, have you seen these beings that wear these
BK: No, no. no. My reports went in, on the several
times we RV'd, were machinery, but no beings. And we were
asked to look out for any machinery and any...yes. We were
asked to find these sort of beings and structures, evidence
of drilling, mining, and this one to have things like, they
escape me at the moment. This is relatively complete.
KC: And so, you answer yes to all of those?
BK: Well, again, no beings.
KC: Right, but the other things?
BK: But the others things, yes.
KC: Well, as one would say, that they have one...
BK: Well they got that you couldn't have the other
KC: You are going to have to somehow
BK: But you have to be so specific...
BK: Your report has to be very specific. So, you
saw a certain medium that's it and in less than one inch.
So, no beings.
KC: Are you aware of Ingo Swann?
BK: Yes, I know who Ingo Swann is.
KC: Do you know him?
BK: Not personally, but yes, I know of him.
KC: I see. But you certainly know about him, right.
So, he's one of the better ones, right?
BK: One of the best. Yes.
KC: What about Pat Price? Did you know about him?
BK: I’ve heard the name. I’ve seen immediate
KC: I see. Okay. You know, he disappeared and I had
always thought that perhaps they took him underground into
Mars or something out. I think he really was killed.
BK: I don't know, because you got to be so very
careful in this business. You can't jump to conclusions, at
KC: Okay. In terms of what is going on with
children, can you talk about what the experiments are
really? Can you tell me what the objective of the
experiments are? What are they trying to do? Are they trying
to create...well, alien-human hybrids, for one?
BK: Well, that's for one. They're also trying to
just push the DNA to evolve. Everyone’s coming out with this
magical “Our DNA's changing and we're doing this and we're
doing that. And you're going to get four-way enlightenment
BK: Well, eventually, humans will evolve, but not
at this sudden rate these people are talking about. It
literally is forcing DNA.
BK: So. They're the Nazi experiments. And they do
it on children, for obvious reasons.
KC: Okay. Isn’t there a tie-in with autistic
children and DNA experiments?
BK: Yeah, but with autistic children it’s
different. Again, everyone thinks that they're in their own
particular little world. It's just basically that they’ve
got areas of their mind open that we don't, so they can
access what we can’t. So, yes, they're of very special
KC: Okay. I thought so. But this was not what drew
their attention to you when you were a child was it?
KC: Okay. How did you, other than through your
father, come to their attention? Was there any other way
that you drew their attention, other than through the
BK: No. Literally, it was what dad was involved in, over
KC: I see.
BK: Whatever that actually was. As I said, the
documentation was massive. The unusual aircraft that was
obviously a craft. There were beings and beings. They
obviously had more than enough information to ship back to
the states, and the big curiosity is I have the contacts who
come to see me regularly, to check up on what I’m doing.
They're helpful, in that, they can have certain information.
And they’re the ones that actually dilute much more
information and what happens with that. I only knew X
BK: Directly from the back they would be very
tightly active, if [you] say certain things that couldn’t be
anything else. Well, these are the guys who’ve been
teamed, check the actual report, and how many you set as
“out”. Put a hundred year seal on the desk unit and the
information. So, it's not going to come out 'til, like, 2046
or something? And everyone's actually said, “Well, this is
what is within the reports that we had accessed.” And that's
when they pass over the information that yes, “This is the
location of a facility in Germany”, but I'm not going to say
where that is.
BK: This is what the actual allies took away with
them. So, I'm assuming my life and why all this happened to
me at the age of two, is the beings that were involved in
the facility in Germany, were the same ones who let’s say,
for want of a better word, 'swapped' me when I was two and I
KC: Okay, but in a sense, you would be like kind of like
a sleeper agent, in a way.
Is there a mission that you’re supposed to participate in
on a bigger level?
BK: Well, it’s quite possible.
KC: Perhaps some time in the future?
BK: Well, or would it happen whether our people
make that move to get out. That’s where this – shall I go
into it? – I’ve already mentioned it several times before
and it was…I’ve said that would be accidental. Currently,
there are five certain individuals on the planet.
KC: Oh, right.
BK: Each has an artifact of ancient origins which
links directly to that individual, and only that individual
can link with that artifact, by direction. And it’s
the job of these five individuals to – I have to be careful
with the terminology there – let’s say they can provide a
shield for this planet or alternatively, they can destroy
this planet, collectively.
KC: So if they come together with the artifacts and
get them together in a certain configuration?
BK: Yes. They can...
KC: And activate something.
BK: Each of the individuals is quite powerful on
their own. They can do certain things within certain
disciplines. When linked as five, the whole planet is
KC: I see.
BK: Shielded all. As I said, it can be destroyed,
but to destroy it, they have to be linked to an outside
KC: Okay, but they can also protect the planet. Is
BK: Yeah, they should protect.
KC: Okay, and is there going to be a purpose to
that? I mean, in the near-future?
BK: The purpose will be evident. You’ve got this
war on right now.
KC: Right. And I also know they have a shield over just
certain parts of the planet. For example, over the United
States or over England, I’m sure, but certain areas are left
exposed, for lack of a better way of terming it. But certain
vehicles, in other words, vehicles trying to get in, can’t
permeate the shield, right?
KC: So, what you're talking about must be maybe an
augmented version of that.
BK: Oh yes. Yes, it literally covers the whole
planet. Nothing will get in or out, that's not warranted.
KC: Okay. Now, is this for the arrival of the
Anunnaki or is this for the arrival of a certain group of
BK: All I'm prepared to say is, I'm not going to
say very much on the Anunnaki. But, the race that are like,
the elders, old ones. They are turning up at some stage of
KC: Okay. Yes, because I’m getting a lot of
information in that regard. Have you heard that we are able
to access the fourth dimension from military bases?
BK: Well, there's an awful lot of chat about accessing the fourth dimension, it... and... [as
long as] outwards...
KC: But I mean specifically, that the secret
government is actually using that. That there is an open
dialogue between beings in that dimension. Of course, the
Earth is moving in there anyway, but specifically, things
aren’t exactly as they seem and there are certain things
that are associated with the fourth dimension that we are
accessing, and I don’t know that we have the energies to do
BK: That is not a problem. It can turn on tonight.
But it's more than possible, and we're all capable of
becoming aware, of sensing this, anyway.
BK: But we're so dumbed down, deliberately, most of us
KC: Okay. Are you saying that the people that
you're associated with, are already, these five, are already
in contact with each other, or are you at liberty to say?
BK: Well, let’s just say I believe that there are
five individuals scattered about the planet.
BK: They can be activated at any time.
KC: Alright. Do you know who Dan Sherman is?
BK: Yes, I do.
KC: Okay. He wrote a book called Above Black, and
it's a wonderful book. It’s not wonderful because of its
literary achievement, but because the information was so
straight, and without fluff. He just laid it on the line as
to what experiences he had, and what happened in his life
and so on. Well, he was genetically engineered in his
mother’s womb, and to become a heightened intuitive, I guess you might say.
KC: And the reason I’m bringing him up, is what
you're saying kind of triggered an association to him.
Because at one point, he said that there would be a time on
the planet when we would not have access, or governments
even, wouldn’t have access to sort of the technology that we
do now, in other words, to pick up a phone and call. The
grid would go down and that these beings, these particular
military genetically-engineered individuals, would have the
ability to communicate with off-planet races, and that would
be of viable use to them and Dan was one such individual.
BK: Yes. It seems very reasonable.
KC: Okay. I don’t know what your five are capable
of and in particular.
BK: Well, without going into too much detail. As I
said, I mentioned it briefly on a number of forums.
KC: Yes. I remember.
BK: Only to those who were interested. But each
individual is and could be quite dangerous. It depends on
who you want to define and how well.
KC: Okay. I know you said you're a psychic and so
on. Do you want to elaborate on what your special skill set
is or not?
BK: I could tell you. I mean, on a lighter side of
that, Andrew Collins, Graham Phillips and [Lisa Williams], that
this being, this has got nothing... so. Graham Philips,
parapsychologist also. What we did in the ’70s was, we got
involved in the occult and black magic and all that side of things. They would use me as a...
what’s the term? They would actually use me to go and find
things. Quick example, they were about to work on a specific
[conduity] case. I didn't know anything about it. So they would
place me in the car and they would drive me along the
street and I was to tell them which house.
KC: Oh, I see.
BK: And yes, not a problem, “It’s that one over there
with the roof.” They used me to test so many different
things. As I said, every time we’d go out on a case, I'd see
and pick up orbs, points of light, solid things sometimes.
Usually, there'd be something up in the skies for folks who know
the case. One occasion was, I was taken by a witness
in his car to the location of his sighting and I’m sitting
in the back: “Erm, can you stop the car a second, and look
immediately above you?” And there was this massive great
cigar-shaped object. So I got two witnesses there, and
you got to interview this. And this happened time and time
again. So, in those... in the ’70s, it was kind of that way.
BK: You had to pick up things and it was fun. I
used to make everyone laugh by, “Oh, close to here in one minute there's going to be so and so.” [Makes beeping sound] And,
“Oh, again. Warning. Next time you’ll know.” [Beep beep]
Silly things. Black projects at first, and that's how I
treated the aspect. It’s not a gift. It’s just there.
But the serious side of that was, obviously, certain
agencies wanted to pursue that.
BK: Because, “if he can do that. So, can he do
this or can he do that?” And it just got darker and darker
and darker. And the next thing, they were going, “Do
you think you could actually shut someone's heart down from
a distance?” Okay... Or, “Do you think you could take control
of someone's car?” [unclear] Because I have.
BK: And... yes. I wish I could.
KC: Does it get in the way of your everyday life?
BK: Not so much now, because a lot of it is
KC: Oh really.
BK: The blokes have shut a lot of it down, and also
because my system has shutting down, anyway. It’s
really going downhill. So, a lot of the abilities I have,
I’m suppressing, because I don't really use it. Well,
sometimes subconsciously with something happening, like,
some months ago, I was getting really annoyed with someone.
And, back to the black school. Nothing bad, but just enough
to make him think.
KC: Okay. What about James Casbolt, because you
guys have quite a saga together.
BK: Yes. He’s still a good friend and I’d define
him as a son who’s never going to get right, and I’ve tried
to put him back on the right path but it was so interesting.
He came to me in early 2007 and I was getting ready for bed.
It was very late at night, and there's a knock on the door.
And I opened the door and [points at camera]...
And I said, “Yes? Can I help you?” And it was James's
and friend. “Crikey, yeah. Yes. James Casbolt, we drove all
the way from Cornwall to see you.” [gestures checking the
time on his wrist watch] And I said, “It’s past eleven at
night! But we’re generally awake. Come in. Okay. And
so on. And the very first meeting with James and his friend.
And he came out with all the things that he said he's
relived; he's recalling. It's mostly recall for James at
KC: I see.
BK: “Single bases in the AM.” “Yeah, Peasemore.
Dah-dah-dah, yeah.” “Okay, let's calm down.” So two or three
hours later, came all this... they're so excited, that they
actually come to see me and they can actually... Yeah. “Oh,
you can converse.” “Yes, yes, Like yourself.” I told them.
And yeah, we ventured away from over there. So I can get
regular phoning, the emails, and we went down there to see
him in 2007. That’s when we... I whole-heartedly agreed to
that one and do some debriefing. He wanted me to do some
deprogramming for him. And I think that backfired, because I
think I inadvertently brought Michael Prince into the
KC: I see.
BK: Because before then, he was just James Casbolt,
and he had dreams or flashbacks of some person or being
called 'Michael.' And during that regression and
deprogramming, I think I inadvertently brought Michael
Prince into the fore and now you do have Michael Prince...
That persona has taken over.
BK: He’s still okay with the earlier material, until it
got to a certain point, because I couldn’t obviously
corroborate that he was taken to Greenham common in ‘82 , he
would get this, he would get that, because it was past my
time. Over to the base in Peasemore, '82 or '83 something.
All I know...
KC: I see.
BK: So, everything he was saying, 'Yeah, it's
interesting, James, but I can't verify it.' And then
he started coming out with more and more really way-out
things. This... program this and program that and... It was
just interesting, but I couldn’t corroborate it.
KC: Okay, but, as a remote viewer, you certainly
have the ability to go back in time or even forward and take
a look at certain things.
BK: If I was that way so inclined, yes.
KC: The other thing is, that he talks about AI
(artificial intelligence) versus machines, and I think
that's a very interesting distinction that a lot of people
don’t tap into, and I wonder if you've wanted to mention
that at all.
BK: Well, as I mentioned in forums, AI is an area
where I usually tend to stay well away from, for a number of
reasons. And I’ve only just recently got slightly back into
that, by telling people there’s a war on between the AIs,
anyway. You’ve got the good AI battling bad AI, and that’s
what's happening now.
BK: There's been a certain group, a very, very
powerful group of people who are taking individuals with
certain abilities, and they want to use their emotioned
states, to perhaps raise the positive AI, in order to fight
the negative AI. They see that as a good way of fighting the
negatives is by pumping the pure new emotions. Not the
hatred, but the love and all of that stuff. So that’s been
happening. So, that’s another war that's going on. See?
[shakes his head negatively and sighs] I don’t want to say
too much more.
KC: I understand. Well, yes, and I’ve heard that,
as well. I heard that a lot of people don’t want to bring
the attention of the AIs in their direction, for any reason,
so they avoid even talking about it.
BK: Well, that’s what I’m trying to do.
KC: Yes. Well, along those lines, I’m sure you
probably don’t want to answer this question, but I’m going
to ask it anyway, which is, do you have any idea where
they're located? [chuckles]
BK: I don’t want to answer that.
KC: [chuckles] Okay, because it's very thought
BK: I’ll give you a couple of clues.
BK: Yes. I've been generous. I've been saying, too,
previously on the forum. You've got a location November Mike
in the States and in Australia, November Tango and that’s
about as much as I can say. [sucks breath in]
[note: NM and NT are aeronautical call signs of
transmitting stations used by airlines, airports, ships,
seaports and military in various combinations; example:
November Mike November is the call sign (NMN) of the US
Coast Guard station that transmits the National Weather
Service's offshore and high seas weather forecasts for the
North Atlantic, Caribbean Sea, and Gulf of Mexico. Source:
KC: Okay. That’s interesting. Yes. That coincides
with a little bit of information that I do have. Paraguay
and the Bushes – what do you know about that?
BK: [Groans and shakes his head negatively] An area
I’d stay away from.
BK: Right. I have nothing to do with that area at all.
KC: I see. This is well known on the Internet, that
of course the Bushes bought a lot of land in Paraguay, and
there is quite a number of alphabet agency types, let’s put
it that way, that are moving down into that area. Well, of
course, there are underground bases in Argentina and all of
that, because the Nazis did have a pretty strong presence
BK: (Non-committal nod)
KC: And, of course, everyone knows the Bush-Nazi
association, but I have some people that are dialoguing with
me and telling me that there are a number of other, possibly
tons of underground bases, cities even, under the U.S., and
so, they're perplexed by the emphasis on Paraguay by the
Bushes, and they are saying, why not just go to an
underground base or an underground city in the U.S.? Why go
to one under Paraguay? And my information tells me that
that's because, even if you had the grid go down
temporarily, for say, a few months, or that you had a
nuclear situation, that because of the nuclear situation in
the U.S., it’s very vulnerable, because you got so many
KC: As well as the Earth changes, et cetera.
Obviously, even if you went underground, if you wanted to
come back up above the ground at any point, you would
encounter a not very pleasant situation regarding radiation.
And then they say that all of the radiation will not be
going south of the hemisphere, so that's of consequence.
Have you heard any of that?
BK: Sounds reasonable.
KC: It sounds reasonable?
KC: Okay. And also, that Bolivia is also sort of a
targeted safe place to go?
BK: Yes. There are a few. Yes. That sounds
KC: Yes, that came from Henry Deacon. Okay,
BK: Hmm. [smiles]
KC: Now, there's lots going on regarding
Antarctica, that's from my understanding. And, in fact, even
in the North Pole, I've just recently gotten some
information about that. We were told there's a Nazi base in
BK: [Nods affirmatively] Everyone on the internet
knows about that.
KC: But, on top of that, recently, I was reading
some kind of old information on Hoagland’s site, which is
talking about how there had been a melting away of a lot of
the ice in Antarctica.
KC: That whole base and portal had been exposed.
And there are all kinds of disinformation going out as the
result of that. So, do you know anything more about
Antarctica? You haven’t had any dealings with Antarctica?
BK: No. [shakes his head no, smiling].
KC: Okay. Well then, that would be another
BK: It would be. A lot of this stuff actually stems
from the Nazis, the Germans. They were so much into the
occult which gave them certain powers.
BK: And, of course, stumbling onto negative ETs.
KC: Yes, big time. Now what about the idea that
they might have extended their lives, so that a number of
them might be down in Antarctica, even having lived a lot
longer than people expected?
BK: Interesting, but I don’t think so.
KC: You don't?
BK: No, I don’t.
KC: Okay. I know what I was going to ask you. And
then we're going to wind this up, and you've been very
generous, and certainly, I'm going to ask you at the very
end, if you got anything to add and you can kind of go off
on whatever tangent you'd like. But I have seen these
nanotech flying beings, so to speak, that seem to be
operating out here. And I wonder, have you heard about that?
KC: I don’t know what else to call them. I’m not
sure what they are.
BK: The technology is certainly capable.
KC: Okay. Maybe this is a dumb question, but do you
know why it is that Britain is one of the most heavily
surveilled societies on Earth? Do you know why that is?
BK: Could be a number of reasons.
KC: Do you think it's genetics?
BK: What you'd have to do then, is check the timelines
and then, yes, you’ve got to trace this all the way back.
BK: They go way, way back.
BK: Really, the advances caused that.
KC: Yeah. Okay. Now, last question and then you are
free to add whatever you want. Ireland. Recently the Queen
went to Ireland and they closed down Dublin with this quasi
terrorist threat story, and then right after that, Obama was
going there a couple days later. This is just last week. My
information told me that there was basically an occult
ritual being performed in Ireland, that reconnected with the
Saint Patrick’s Stone and things of this nature. Do you know
anything about that?
BK: No. That’s again, an area that is of no
interest to me. So, I don't have any information about that.
But there is a link. Yes, there is a link. And I think also,
Obama was due in this area, wasn’t he, during this weekend?
KC: Due here? You mean, where we are right here?
BK: Well, visiting this neck of the woods.
KC: Really? That’s interesting. Do you know why?
BK: Something to do with one air base or another
but, no I don’t know too many details.
KC: Well, the reason I also went in that direction,
was because we've been talking briefly about genetics, and
there is this whole thing about the Celts and is your
BK: Yes. It is something like that.
KC: Okay. So, I guess they're utilizing a lot of
the children, as well.
KC: Do you have anything you want to add to our
discussion, here, anything that you want to sort of fill in?
I know I jumped around a lot, but I...
BK: Yes. There's literally too much. I mean, I
could literally sit here for six or seven hours and rattle
it all along. From start to finish, let me get it all
off my chest, to get it finished with. But no one's
got six or seven hours.
KC: Well, actually [chuckles]...
KC: Don’t tempt me, because I would be happy to
accommodate you. That's, maybe with a good night’s sleep.
BK: What I’m trying to do, specifically over the
last couple of years is, what I did in 2005, when I first
said, “All right. That's it. I'm not working for Doctor Who
anymore. I’m going to go on the forums and I'll get it all
sorted out this way.” So I started with UFO case books,
2005. And I strayed from there. Didn’t get very far, and put
out a lot of information, there was some feedback, some of
the NSA were back. “Bases? [unclear]? - Yeah, that's mine. -
Oh, right...” But the last couple of years I said, “That's
it. I'm done. Pull out some stops, because we’re not getting
anywhere. I’m not getting any younger, and the system isn't
going to last forever. So, let's do it with a little more
risk. Feed the fishes. So then, throw a few more bits and
pieces into the pond and see if it bites.
BK: So, I’ve done that.
BK: Still waiting for the right feedback, because a
lot of people are not connecting the dots. So, all I want to
say for the last bit is, 'Literally, people, you’ve got to
start from the age of two, and that’s long and boring and on
and da, da da, da, da....
BK: But you'll connect the dots of what went on in
childhood. What happened to me childhood, when I became
an officer [unclear] in the 70s
BK: ...the 80s. In the ’80s, it became
a PsyOp. A Psychlogical Operations group. And that
[seemed to have certainly been like...*] And up to present day. You’ve just got to connect the dots. I try
to lead people. Please do some work. I’m connecting the dots
BK: I'll give you the dots.
BK: They might not in the right order. Do the
homework. Connect them, then you'll have the whole picture. It's
all skipped time.
KC: Okay. Well, let me ask you why... Why is it
that are you so interested in bringing truth forward and
clueing people in? Do you have motivations?
BK: My principles have always been truth, justice
and freedom, and... I would die for those principles.
BK: People deserve the truth. They deserve justice
and they certainly deserve freedom. They should be able
control who the government is. They shouldn't be lied to.
They shouldn’t be subject to secrets and pay heavily in
taxes to keep it a secret, so...
KC: Okay. Well, thank you so much. Thank you, Barry
King, for your service to humanity.
BK: Thank you.
KC: I’m happy to say that to you.
BK: Thank you. When they say, “Cancer can be
induced”, it can be.
BK: Unless some certain things have been done, it
can be. So, I’ve just got to be just careful, because it's
my family and friends. I don’t care what happens to me. I’m
well past being on this planet anyway, but burying good
BK: You go off the bin, and it got me into pain.
BK: I’ll be off now.
KC: All right. Well, very interesting.
BK: There’s a lot of information, and I say, “Well,
look. I’m not going to answer your questions, because you
are not asking the right questions. And I don't just want to
sit there. And I don’t want to give it all to you. I'm not
going to just give the answers. No! Do some work. If you’re
going to have it, you’ve got to ask me the right questions?”
KC: Yeah, I know. I see...
BK: And there's certain things, that no one's
asked, since the '90s, that still have not been asked.
BK: Oh, yeah. I said to Miles just a few days ago,
“Please recheck all those original documents. You will find
something there.” He's obviously gone: “Oh, yeah. The
passwords.” And no-one’s asked a single right question
since 1994, and not address that.
KC: Well, I'm going to have to go back and take a
BK: Good luck. There's a great deal.
KC: Okay. [laughs]